EVE Search - Dramiel Counter?

Check My IP Information

All Channels

Ships and Modules

Dramiel Counter?

» Click here to find additional results for this topic using Google

Monitor this thread via RSS [?]


Author	Thread Statistics \| Show CCP posts - 0 post(s)
Deva Blackfire Priory Of The Lemon Atlas Alliance	Posted - 2010.02.02 12:43:00 - [1] Originally by: RenegadeChemist LOL this thread People really need to start fitting scramblers... No really, it's that simple. Rest is up to you. Think again why this wont stop typical dramiel fit.
Deva Blackfire Priory Of The Lemon Atlas Alliance	Posted - 2010.02.05 21:31:00 - [2] Originally by: Ranger 1 Stop your belly aching and read the Dev Blog that specifically describes why Navy and Pirate faction ships were balanced (in relation to T1 and T2) the way that they were. You will find it quite enlightening. You mean the same blog which states that Worm is a-ok friog wheras we repedeately told CCP its sub-par to AFs and not even close to other pirate frigs? Also that blog didnt state how much better pirate frigs should be, just that they should be step forward. Even after losing some speed or midslot dramiel still will be OP compared to most AFs, just not that much OP.
Deva Blackfire Priory Of The Lemon Atlas Alliance	Posted - 2010.02.05 22:42:00 - [3] Edited by: Deva Blackfire on 05/02/2010 22:43:31 Originally by: Liang Nuren Deva... AFs are complete crap to start with. Please don't balance pirate frigs against ships that have been known to suck for years. If you are concerned about AF balance, ask for an AF boost. -Liang Im glad you totally ignored 2nd line of what i wrote. Even excluding AFs: dramiel is too good. If you drop one of its midslots OR drop speed it will STILL be the best frig out there. Thats how good it is. As for AFs, sure i want boost. But not ****ed "lets give them all some random idiot-resistant bonus like web immunity, neut immunity or uber-AB speeds". Tho i already posted this in proper sub-forum. Quote:** As was pointed out in the post above, we all know that AF's have a boost coming. Why would they balance Pirate Faction frigs against the current AF's and then have to do it all over again after the AF boost. Maybe because CCP is known for doing changes which get obsolete with next patch/expansion?
Deva Blackfire Priory Of The Lemon Atlas Alliance	Posted - 2010.02.06 18:34:00 - [4] Originally by: Liang Nuren Originally by: Kadesh Priestess Say, i invest 300m into an interceptor for a decent fitting - i still can't kill dramiel. What i'm doing wrong? That part. You know, the part where the Dramiel is supposed to be better. -Liang So dramiel is supposed to be better because it costs more than other frigs. At the same time it supposed to be better than more expensive ships well... because its dramiel. Lol.
Deva Blackfire Priory Of The Lemon Atlas Alliance	Posted - 2010.02.06 19:14:00 - [5] What im saying the line of defence of unbalanced ships/weapons/whatever on EVE forums are always hilarious. Its supposed to be good coz its expensive is ALWAYS the first one. Suddenly you find worse but more expensive ship and line of defence changes drastically (because its dramiel, because its fast, because its supposed to be better anyways, because of falcon - select ones you prefer). And when it comes to dramiel i already said all that had to be. Lose midslot or lose speed.
Deva Blackfire Priory Of The Lemon Atlas Alliance	Posted - 2010.02.08 12:35:00 - [6] Originally by: Hannibal Ord Originally by: Omara Otawan Edited by: Omara Otawan on 08/02/2010 01:56:46 Originally by: Hannibal Ord Broadsword is arguable THE best Hictor, what with it having higher dps than Onyx, same tank, more agility, projectile buff etc etc etc etc. What are you smoking? Not that dps matters on a HIC, but in fact the Onyx gets same dps as the Broadsword, with better range and no falloff penalty. It has a better tank, SAME agility, etc etc etc etc. You are right about it having no projectile buff though It's 2 am. I'm at work. I'm pretty tired. You're wrong though, the Broadsword is better. I'm not going to check and come back with anything to disagree with you like numbers from eft or whatever. Just believe me. I mean, you can argue that it uses the Rupture hull, rather than the Moa. That alone justifies what I'm saying. You know I'm right. No. You are trying to make a point (broad is best HIC) wheras you fail at basics. Broad is best at WHAT? DPS? Same as Onyx. Tank? Same as onyx, inferior to armor tanked HICs. Ability to tackle supercaps? Worse than armor tanked HICs (phobos and devoter) due to lack of injector (and if you use injector then you kill your tank). Ability to camp in lowsec? Worse than phobos (which is superior to all others as lowsec gatecamper ue to 4 mids and 6lowslot tank). All HICs have their own strengths and weaknesses and have different uses so HIC situation is NOT comparable to dramiel situation at all.
Deva Blackfire Priory Of The Lemon Atlas Alliance	Posted - 2010.02.08 18:03:00 - [7] Originally by: Hannibal Ord It's still better. And the Dramiel still doesn't need nerfing. You are clueless in both cases it seems.

COPYRIGHT NOTICE
EVE Online, the EVE logo, EVE and all associated logos and designs are the intellectual property of CCP hf. All artwork, screenshots, characters, vehicles, storylines, world facts or other recognizable features of the intellectual property relating to these trademarks are likewise the intellectual property of CCP hf. EVE Online and the EVE logo are the registered trademarks of CCP hf. All rights are reserved worldwide. All other trademarks are the property of their respective owners. CCP hf. has granted permission to EVE-Search.com to use EVE Online and all associated logos and designs for promotional and information purposes on its website but does not endorse, and is not in any way affiliated with, EVE-Search.com. CCP is in no way responsible for the content on or functioning of this website, nor can it be liable for any damage arising from the use of this website.